Reseller plan prices

Discussion in 'H-Sphere Reseller Hosting' started by antic, Feb 21, 2010.

  1. antic

    antic Perch

    Just noticed this for the first time, as I've always been on LiteHost...

    All the other reseller plans are each double the resources - at double the price. That strikes me as unusual as plans (for anything) go. Usually you get "value for money" as you up the scale. Double the product, but less than double the price.

    Like paying for 6 or 12 months in advance - spending more means saving more.

    Currently, LiteHost is $17.50 for 4.5/65GB. Value is $35 for 8.5/135GB, Silver is $70 for 17/265GB... I mean some of those values are LESS than double for double the price.

    So Jodo, do you have lots of people staying on LiteHost and not moving? Because the upgrade path is not too appealing.
  2. eehost

    eehost Perch

    Just noticed this. I'd also like to understand the reasoning behind it. :)
  3. Stephen

    Stephen US Operations Staff Member

    I can't answer everything, but the plans do have number of hsphere user limits, and that is part of the reason :)
  4. amakarem

    amakarem Guppy

    I like H-Sphere and I like to sell it
    but with this price we can't compete in the market
    for example
    Disk Space 4.5GB and Monthly Transfer 65GB for $17.50 and 15 user account
    so 15 user/4.5GB so every account will have 300MB at max for web and mail host that if I will sell just 1 plan.
    when other hosting provider gave unlimited disk space and Monthly Transfer for price's less then $17.50
    and if I tried to buy Additional Disk Space it will cost me $0.10/MB per Month
    that's meen that the cost per 1GB = $102.4 per month so I have to limit my customer's and they will complain about the hight price's and low space.
    I know that lot of hosting provide reseller hosting gave unlimited everything and the price is per user account(domain) / $1.45 per month.
    so we need from jodohost to review the reseller price's and limitation with the new prices that proportionate with the market.
    by the way I'm jodohost reseller since 2003 and I think that I'm part of jodohost and I wish to see jodohost ranked as number 1 hosting provider world wide.
  5. antic

    antic Perch

    amakarem... Firstly, you cannot compare a service like Jodo, and others of similar quality, with those nasty services who provide "unlimited" or extremely cheap service. You get what you pay for. Their service is usually rubbish. If you want quality of service, you pay around this price everywhere you look.

    Secondly, we've already talked about the "overage" pricing. I've previously posted a comparison between Jodo's overage and another service. Jodo is not charging any more than others in the same area of business. If you want to try your luck with cheap services you can, but realise you will have more problems than it's worth.

    However I do think that, in these days of multimedia hosting - people wanting somewhere to upload photos and videos - it's a lot harder to provide clients with hosting plans using an "overselling" model. That's the main problem as I see it these days.
  6. amakarem

    amakarem Guppy

    for sure I understand jodohost quality and that's way I work with them for more then 7 years.
    but the normal customer can't understand this.
    you know when you see the top web hosts worldwide ranking you can find that thy gave at lest unlimited email and the customer is look for the brand name too so the customer will think that if host is from top 10 world wide then he have the quality too.
    and if the customer not in need to have big space for web host he asking for unlimited space for the email host you know sometimes the customer's say I can get email from (yahoo,google,hotmail...etc) for free with a space up to 2GB, while I pay you for little space??
    I find some of my customers hosted there web space from me and thy have other hosting provider for mail and that not look good.
  7. Stephen

    Stephen US Operations Staff Member

    What is the issue with them hosting mail elsewhere exactly? it works well into your advantage.

    We will not go unlimited, it is a lie and IMO unethical, bad business. We regularly revamp the plans, and that will be coming soon, BUT IT WON'T go unlimited. :)
  8. antic

    antic Perch

    amakarem, I'm sure any customer will understand that your business cannot compare with Google and Yahoo. It's a bit strange to say, "why can't we offer the same as Google"!

    Perhaps one day, when Jodo wins Lotto. :)

    Personally I don't offer webmail services. If they want email accounts, they can have them, but they are FORWARDING accounts only, not POP accounts or webmail accounts. Clients are usually very small businesses, they don't have a great need for a complete email solution. Forwarding to their existing email address is usually sufficient for them.

    So, if they already have a Hotmail/Yahoo/Google account with unlimited space, they can still set up their business emails address, which simply forwards to their existing email account. Easy! And you don't have to worry about space/backups/downtime/etc.
  9. hafa

    hafa Perch

    I provide email to all of my customers, but keep their accounts capped and explain that emails count against their overall allocation (Only a few clients are allowed CP access). Clients enjoy the reliability and flexibility of our systems and understand that webmail is limited in scope. We assist them with setup of local mail clients and instruct them to download and remove messages from the server on a hourly scheduled basis.
  10. liming

    liming Perch

    We have converted over 90% of our clients to Google Apps. Some of them even upgraded to the paid version.

    Overall from the feedback they have given us not only did the move improve their experience but it also costs us less resources.

    Also if something is wrong with the email then they understand it more because it's Google's fault.
  11. antic

    antic Perch

    Yep, Google Analytics is far better than AWStats or Webalizer, and Google's email solution far better than hosted email. The resources can better go to actual web hosting, where we can at least say the service is worth the price without being looked at funny. :)
  12. Stephen

    Stephen US Operations Staff Member

    And contrary to what some may thing, google does indeed have some email issues at times :D

    I've even had a large increase in spam the last 2-3 weeks making to inbox. :)
  13. antic

    antic Perch

    Speaking of using google, is there a way to embed Picasa photo albums on a web page? I mean so the photo navigation can be done on the web site itself, not on Picasa?
  14. Stephen

    Stephen US Operations Staff Member

    I don't see an embed feature on my picasa albums.
    Picasa also doesn't hotlink well at all, flickr does ;)
  15. antic

    antic Perch

    Cheers. Unfortunately the flickr free account is a bit limiting though. Picasa has a bigger space allowance I think.
  16. Stephen

    Stephen US Operations Staff Member

    True, I used flickr because I saw it allowed hotlinking, and bought flickr pro. I have some nice pics on there.
  17. antic

    antic Perch

    Very nice! What are those flowers called? We have tulips down here, and I caught a bee napping in one of them.

  18. Stephen

    Stephen US Operations Staff Member

    Honestly I don't know the name it was up at a garden between Miami and Fort Lauderdale this summer. (dreadfully hot day)

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