DSPAM Problems...

OK, I am puzzled. I just found out that DSPAM rejected an email from one of my business partners using GMAIL for his email sent to our reseller account on MAIL5.
We never asked to set up DSPAM, and HSPHERE shows our email protection as default. I thought (incorrectly?) that 1.) email would not get DSPAM by default and 2.) default settings on DSPAM would be just to mark it [SPAM].
What are the default settings?

On 1/29/07, Mail Delivery System <[email protected] > wrote:This is the mail system at host dspam1.local .

I’m sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It’s attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

               The mail system

<[email protected] >: host 64.187.103.252[H-SPHERE] said: 558 sorry,
that message size exceeds my databytes limit (#5.3.4) (in reply to MAIL
FROM command)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; [email protected]
Original-Recipient: rfc822;aviator@NNNNN.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; H-SPHERE
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 558 sorry, that message size exceeds my databytes limit
(#5.3.4)

I’ll check this error out, this is the first report we are getting of such an error

OK – thanks – this is the first error I have been made aware of. If I see more, be sure I will make a note of it.

That said, is there a User Manual, FAQ, or Sticky for DSPAM settings and behaviours yet? That might help out a little bit…

Thanks
Tim

Re: DSPAM Problems… mail5 issues?

OK – this is getting weirder…
I sent a test from my gmail acct to accts at both mail3 and mail5. Mail3 came trhough immediately. Mail5 took a full hour to get delivered (8:59 vs 9:44)
Is MAIL5 holding stuff right now? Jodopulse shows all normal…

Hi,

my clients and I are having the same DSPAM problem. Email sent to our email addresses bounced back.

Here the bounce message :

[B]This is the mail system at host dspam1.local.

I’m sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It’s attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

               The mail system

[email protected]: host 64.187.103.252[64.187.103.252]
said: 552
Sorry, this message appears to be spam (#5.6.0) (in reply to end of
DATA
command)[/B]

Could you do something to resolve this problem ?

I had a support ticket sent to Tanmaya sent back to me as SPAM.

Reporting-MTA: dns; dspam1.local
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 4E53C241A5
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; **@yahoo.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:55:20 -0500 (EST)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; [email protected]
Original-Recipient: rfc822;[email protected]
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for jodohost.com loops back to myself

gundu, your client would receive that bounce if their mail server is on spamcop or spamhaus or it is on a residential IP address.

Please PM me the sending email address of that domain and I will tell you exactly why. if you do not want your domain to use the new system, let me know

We are working on the loopback issue.

My client is not getting half of business emails.

I got bounced email sent from reseller admin account to this same client.

Here is error:

This is the mail system at host dspam1.local.

I’m sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It’s attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

[email protected] : mail for opus.si loops back to myself

We are working on the loopback issue. We’ll either have it resolved shortly or disable dspam while we figure this out

We are monitoring the logs for loop back issues. Please report more instances via tickets.
I wasn’t able to replicate the issue after we rebuilt a transport table

You should disable this antispam and not test it on live server.
Our clients are very angry because they are not getting their business emails!

The loopback issue seems to have been occuring sporadically, for internal emails. Any loopback was bounced back and hence sender notified.

I do request cooperation.
Please note we have done months of testing on this new system. Some issues can only be resolved in live situations. We are monitoring the logs and haven’t seen any loopback since

Yash, My client received bounce message from yahoo mail. I’m sure yahoo mail server is not listed in the spamlist, is it?

Most emails sent to yahoo from jodohost mail server are flagged as spam.
I sent a test email using my isp smtp mail and the mail went straight to inbox, However a test mail sent using your smtp mail server will be flagged as SPAM and go to bulk folder.

Question is : why does yahoo reject your smtp mail server and not my isp’s ?

I’ve sent alot of tickets regarding this issue and so far no resolution has been made from your end and the support team blammed yahoo filtering mail instead.

Yash,
What happens if we turn off antispam in CP.
Should all emails including spam be delivered to our account or no?

Tommy, yahoo doesn’t flag our mail servers for spam. They flag certain emails as spam based on their own content analysis. There are many complaints on alot of forums regarding Yahoo SPAM.

As far as our mail servers rejecting email from yahoo, i ran a test from mail5 and its coming in properly. It failed in your case due to a loopback error. We are monitoring such errors and as of now have not seen more cases of it

This is not true. I’ve sent a ticket complaining about this issue later today. So this problem has more than half a day and hasn’t been solved yet.

Could you please give an estimated time for this to be fully working? I’m tired of telling my customers the problem is solved and they answering me an hour later that they still have problems!

I got another complaint from a different customer telling me they are not getting some e-mails just now!

Please give reasonable answers we could pass to our customers!

My client still get one email and doesn’t get another email from same sender.
Any news on this?

We are aware of the issue. There is sporadic issue with the transport table that handles email delivery, hence causing occasional loopback bounces.

We are reverting mail5 back to its configuration. Everything will be normal in 5 to 10min. We’ll move back mail5 to dspam once issue is corrected (we are working with developer)

Thanks yash, mail5 is back to normal now. Can you check on mail4. It has the same issue as well and yahoo flags my test email as spam.