Email and spam filters

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Nathan

Perch
Sorry if I have missed the obvious, but I have enabled both the virus and spam filters, but offending emails are simply marked and then downloaded as normal. Is there a way to (at the mail server side) to mark the messages and move them to a spam/virus folder?

I use a Vodafone G3 system for my laptop and it would much better to not have to download all the span to my laptop (and pay the download fee!) Occaisionally I could check the spam folder on the sever via my desktop system.
Thanks for any ideas of suggestions to the ever anoying problem of spam mail.

Nathan
 
Hi

I have the same problem, I want the spam email to be moved into a SPAM directory that I will check only once in a while.

Is there any configuration/solution for this ?

At this other hosting provider I used before, there was even a daily spam report delivered. But no big deal, I least it would be nice if the spam would be moved from INBOX to a special directory, so we wouldn't have to download it daily.

THanks,
Lucian
 
If I understand correctly you just want all spam to go to a folder on the server and not be marked and downloaded to your computer.
This could be accomplished by making a new e-mail address ([email protected]) in your control panel and then setting your domain's spam settings to move all spam to your new spam folder. Then all spam that the system catches will go to your new spam e-mail account that you do not have to download. Just check once in a while and then delete all spam.
That should do the trick for you.
 
The problem is the primitive antispam system in effect misses about 90% of the spam..........lol..............z
 
It is no primitive system, AFAIK even Barracuda use it as anti-spam engine.
 
how do you tell it to send the spam to the spam account though

ah. mine is set to remove not move... but no joy.

/me tries enabling max_score_level to very aggressive

:( it doens't like both enabled
 
I have several customers who have chosen to go with a simple server-level whitelist system. If the sender's address isn't on the list, it doesn't get accepted. This will usually block unwanted mail before it leaves a spammers outbox, keeping it OFF OF THE INTENET COMPLETELY. It is nice to recieve Zero spam and get Zero false positives. Like the clean email, back in the day. Whitelists can eliminate spam, and produce an immediate reduction in server/infrastructure load.

I know it's difficult when you need to recieve mail from new/potential customers, who aren't on your whitelist.... but there is a way, using a contact form, where potentials can contact you, but spammers can't.

It's not like BoxTrapper. BT can generate more server load than spam, trying to use it's automated authorization system on all incoming mail....nice thought though.....

The whitelist may be able to virtually eliminate the spamming industry. The question is, will we begin to use it now? Or, wait till we are forced to use it, due to infrastructure overload?
 
BorderWeb said:
...The whitelist may be able to virtually eliminate the spamming industry. The question is, will we begin to use it now? Or, wait till we are forced to use it, due to infrastructure overload?
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The whitelist in conjuction with well-crafted web forms to provide initial contacts is likely the best possible solution. Now if there was just a way to allow the customer to easily add an email to the whitelist without logging into the control panel, I think that we can whip this problem.
 
Yep, Exactly. My business is fairly small, so I can add them
mannually in a flash.... initially I have clients send me their address book......... I white list the address book, block eveything else, and then it's just a matter of getting them in the habit of authorizing senders...(simple mail form on my website) no configuring anti-spamware programs...no "lost mail"....some clients have even gotten rid of their "anti-spamware" altogether......

I had been noticing how dealing with spam is so time consuming..causes so many security issues... robbing the functionality from our industry.....both on our end, and the end users...
can't do this cuz of spam ...can't do that cuz of spam....

Computer automation or not, I think it has reached a point where we can deal with it on a proactive, whitelist only basis, with less time and effort than we're currently being forced to put out.
Computer technology is a revolving door. Fix a problem, the trouble-makers breach the fix. But they can't breach our brains ....... their only hope is that we we convert our thoughts to static 1s and 0s .....
I think we should battle them outside of their element.
I get no spam ....... except by design, I leave my webmaster accounts wide open...enter spamcop.net!
 
BorderWeb said:
Yep, Exactly. My business is fairly small, so I can add them
mannually in a flash....
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I wish that it was quite so easy for me...I have literally hundreds of domains with thousands of email accounts; normally a very happy problem :D . An automated solution is the only option...
 
8o Hmm....I see what you're sayin'...... I'm small potatoes in comparison....
I charge the clients for the service to offset the added labor...but at my level, the labor is nominal......

Automation....or deligation.......perhaps the answer is a mail account whitelist, manageble by the individual box holder, without having to go through the CP....sort of a side door in the hosting software...editable by the end user....

I've tried the whitelist in horde at another hosting service, didn't work too well .....trouble with regexp ....plus the whole idea is to keep spam completely out of the system....and not let it make it to the box in the first place......
Is there anyone using the whitelist/blacklist in horde ?
 
tanmaya said:
It is no primitive system, AFAIK even Barracuda use it as anti-spam engine.
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Yes, they do use it, but with some of their own enhancements.

On the issue of receiving the same (or very similar) spam over and over, I have noticed that in the email headers that it says that the "autolearn" feature of Spamassassin is turned OFF (autolearn=disabled). Is there a reason for this? Would it be better if it was enabled?

It seems that if the system could "learn" what is spam AND remember it, the result would be less spam getting through to the clients. As it is now, it seems to have to evaluate every message to determine the rating and see if it qualifies as spam.

I am no expert on this, unless you count dealing with 1,000s of spam emails each day. :rolleyes:

Chief Grape
 
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